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Dr. Bo's Criteria for Logical Fallacies:

  1. It must be an error in reasoning not a factual error.
  2. It must be commonly applied to an argument either in the form of the argument or in the interpretation of the argument.
  3. It must be deceptive in that it often fools the average adult.

Therefore, we will define a logical fallacy as a concept within argumentation that commonly leads to an error in reasoning due to the deceptive nature of its presentation. Logical fallacies can comprise fallacious arguments that contain one or more non-factual errors in their form or deceptive arguments that often lead to fallacious reasoning in their evaluation.

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hypnotic bait and switch
manipulation
red herring
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Fri, Oct 12, 2018 - 07:23 PM

Bait and Switch

Recently I had someone bring me in on a conversation with one topic but then switched topics, not because I "won" the original argument but because it was their plan all along just to get me to sit down and have a conversation. I doesn't seem like "Hypnotic Bait and Switch" or even a "Red Herring" which seems like a technique people use to divert an argument because they feel they are "losing."

To sum up, what is the fallacy when someone plans to purposefully entice you into a conversation about one thing your interested in but then switches the subject to something you would not want to talk about.



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Bo Bennett, PhD
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I wouldn't call this a fallacy (because there is no error in reasoning on the part of either party). This is either a deliberate attempt to mislead someone or simply the failure to remain on topic.
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