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Dr. Bo's Criteria for Logical Fallacies:

  1. It must be an error in reasoning not a factual error.
  2. It must be commonly applied to an argument either in the form of the argument or in the interpretation of the argument.
  3. It must be deceptive in that it often fools the average adult.

Therefore, we will define a logical fallacy as a concept within argumentation that commonly leads to an error in reasoning due to the deceptive nature of its presentation. Logical fallacies can comprise fallacious arguments that contain one or more non-factual errors in their form or deceptive arguments that often lead to fallacious reasoning in their evaluation.

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Sat, Nov 10, 2018 - 04:01 AM

Can you identify the fallacies in this paragraph and why it's a fallacy?

Good evening ladies and gentlemen. I am Jake Gold, and I am here to warn you against a growing movement among the general population to eliminate money from politics. The goal of these people is to prevent corporations from giving money to political campaigns and to prevent politicians from taking lucrative jobs with corporations for several years after they exit Congress or the Senate. But I say that corporations are part of a capitalistic society, so you are either for allowing corporations to give unlimited money to politicians or you are a communist. For that reason, I am asking you to donate money to my campaign. I will fight against any bill designed to limit the money that you can give to politicians, including the bill sponsored by Mr. Bird that is currently gaining traction. After all, you have all grown up during the generations of our country where companies can give money to politicians---we should keep it that way.



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Bo Bennett, PhD
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Hmmm. I am detecting a homework question here, so I help you like I help my other students. Take a closer look at these two statements and see if you can match the fallacy. You can find those fallacies linked here: https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/3/Book-Contents.

But I say that corporations are part of a capitalistic society, so you are either for allowing corporations to give unlimited money to politicians or you are a communist.

After all, you have all grown up during the generations of our country where companies can give money to politicians---we should keep it that way.

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Angie
Saturday, November 10, 2018 - 11:43:36 AM
I'm trying to learn how to find fallacies and in this paragraph I found two. Please let me know if you agree.
Here's my paragraph:
The opposing side is represented by politicians like Ernie Bird. Ernie Bird argues that corporations are not people, so the corporations should not be able to give money to politicians. Apparently Erni doesn’t know that corporations are made up of people. Since they are made up of people, clearly they must be people themselves. The bill to eliminate money from politics has also been vocally supported by the rock singer Flint Steele. But, if you have been watching the news lately, you know that Flint has just been accused of having sex with a minor. Certainly we cannot trust a bill that is associated with people like that and we should look on any supporters of such a bill with suspicion.

Here are the Fallacies I identified, Please let me know if I'm on the right tract or did I get it?

Fallacy 1: But, if you have been watching the news lately, you know that Flint has just been accused of having sex with a minor. Certainly we cannot trust a bill that is associated with people like that and we should look on any supporters of such a bill with suspicion.

Fallacy 2: Ernie Bird argues that corporations are not people, so the corporations should not be able to give money to politicians. Apparently Erni doesn’t know that corporations are made up of people. Since they are made up of people, clearly they must be people themselves.

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Angie
Saturday, November 10, 2018 - 10:20:26 AM
@Bo Bennett, PhD:

Thank you sir. I only got one correct which was the first out of the two you wrote. I'm new to identifying fallacies and I get a bit confused at times on which is really a fallacy.
Thanks again.

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Angie
Saturday, November 10, 2018 - 11:01:57 AM
Hello Sir
I went through your list of fallacies and I came up with these for your responses.
Response #1
But I say that corporations are part of a capitalistic society, so you are either for allowing corporations to give unlimited money to politicians or you are a communist.
Fallacy 1: Appeal to Authority
Fallacy 2: Appeal to Desperation

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Saturday, November 10, 2018 - 11:04:30 AM
@Angie: Fallacy 1: The person speaking is not claiming to be an authority, so that won't work. He is giving us only two options when there are clearly more... "false...."

Fallacy 2: It is an appeal, but an appeal to tra.....

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Angie
Saturday, November 10, 2018 - 11:20:12 AM
@Bo Bennett, PhD:
Did I get it?
1. The person speaking is not claiming to be an authority, so that won't work. He is giving us only two options when there are clearly more... "false...."Dilemma (False Dilemma)

2. Fallacy 2: It is an appeal, but an appeal to tra.....Tradition (Appeal to Tradition)

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Saturday, November 10, 2018 - 11:30:38 AM
@Angie: Fallacy 1: The person speaking is not claiming to be an authority, so that won't work. He is giving us only two options when there are clearly more... "false...."

Fallacy 2: It is an appeal, but an appeal to tra.....

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Angie
Saturday, November 10, 2018 - 11:08:49 AM
@Bo Bennett, PhD:
Hi sir,
I'm not sure if I'm correct, but this is what I think the fallacy is for this response.
Response #2:
After all, you have all grown up during the generations of our country where companies can give money to politicians---we should keep it that way
Fallacy: Appeal to Common Sense?

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